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5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby george31 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:12 am

Hi everybody
new member . RHD RWV 73 midget in the south of france .
I just bought a ford 5 speed box to convert my midget .I need to purchase the remaining parts .
I only know 2 possibilities in G B :
- frontline
- Morris minor centre .
the second seems cheaper than the 1st one .
Has someone experienced this 2nd solution ? Is it as complete as the frontline one? ( new propshaft and chassis crossmember +++ ?

many thanks for yr help

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby dan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:14 pm

What ford 5 speed are you using? Given the paucity of Datsun trannys in the States, I've consider sourcing something else.
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby Bugzy59 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:15 pm

Moss has a kit. Uses a Ford T9.
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProd ... exID=67782
I think some other companies sell the conversion without the gearbox.
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby george31 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:14 am

thanks for yr replies
my gearbox is the right ford model, that is : the type 9
the moss solution is , I think , the frontline solution .
why the ford tranny instead of the datsun one from rivergate ? because we don't have much japanese cars in france and so not so many gearboxes .
As many of you, I suppose, I am concerned by the cost of the modification and this is why I would like to hear from someone who has fitted the morris minor system which is cheaper and could tell us if it is okay .
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby Bugzy59 » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:56 pm

The Sprites, Midgets, and Morris Minors all use the A series engines. Earlier models used a "smoothcase" gearbox and later models used a "ribcase" gearbox. I have a 1959 Sprite and am using a Ribcase gearbox from a 1972 Midget. These gearboxes are for the most part interchangable. Make sure that the gearbox has mounts for the slave cylinder on the left side. Is there some other "Morris Minor" conversion?
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby dan » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:23 pm

What's the Ford T-9 originally from? (Anyone know the model?)

Also--they mention there are minor modifications that have to be done...anyone have experience with what needs to be changed?

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby Charlie Tolman » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:55 am

There is lots o' information on the Internet regarding cars and models with the T-9. Ford Sierra, early Mercury Capri, XR4Ti (?), etc. At least two different sets of gear ratios were used.

Google: Ford T-9 transmission; and possibly add: MG.

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby Charlie Tolman » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:26 am

Add the word 'ratios' to the Google search (without 'MG'), as another combination.

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby george31 » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:40 pm

for those of you who want to know know which ford model used to have the type 9 box go to : "type 9 transmission wikipedia ". most of the models are european but it seems that there is one us model .
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby Charlie Tolman » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:36 am

The "Wikipedia" information on the car make and model that used the T-9 transmission, mentioned above, is quite good, but there are some omissions.

Ford Capri, 1.6, 2.0, from 02-1983 and on.
Ford Capri, 2.8, from 11-1982 and on.
Ford Sierra, 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, up to 12-1982.
Ford Sierra, XR4i.
Ford Sierra, XR4X4, 2.8.
Merkur XR4Ti.

This list came from comparing two or three sources on the Internet.

Frontline Spridget has a nice website.

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby richardjbondy » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:07 am

I purchased mine from the Morris Minor Centere. The instructions and photos provided were very helpful. This is a very easy update. You can view additional T-9 info and see my installation at http://www.britishv8.org/Other/RichardBondy.htm

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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby peter an5l » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:40 pm

Hi George, wellcome to this forum. As you stay in France you maybe interested to check a company in Holland. It is Spridget Company and please contact Oliver Wille. www.spridgetcompany.com , info@spridgetcompany.com . Try them, they are very enthusiastic and only work on Spridgets. They ve got a big second hand collection of parts and also prepare fast road and track cars.
Greetings from Bremen, Germany
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Re: 5 speed box : frontline vs morris monor centre

Postby KenR » Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:02 am

Several T9 discussions on Lotuselan.net. Regarding who is building different gear ratios, different tail shafts for shifter placement, Quaife aluminum case and top cover, weights for aluminum and iron versions... etc. Google search will get one there. They are inexpensive and readily available in the UK and probably AUS.
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